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Massacre of the Usipetes and Tenchterhi[edit]

So why exactly isn't Caesar's massacre of the women and children of the Usipetes and Tenchterhi mentioned here and our article on the Gallic Wars? This is a whole lot harder to ignore with all the media coverage of this massacre in various media outlets (for example [1], [2]–the latter referring to the event as "genocidal").

We should be vary wary of this sort of exclusion. It's unfortunately typical of Wikipedia's coverage of figures important in Western history. For example, until fairly recently there was no mention of the particularly nasty elements of Charlemagne's (massacre, religious warfare) and Hernando de Soto's legacies on their respective articles (actually, the de Soto article still seems to have been written by a tourism agency). :bloodofox: (talk) 23:51, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

well it actually depends on witch place you are from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.204.184 (talk) 00:29, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 July 2016[edit]

Add in (Personal life, Health and physical appearance of Julius Caesar) a new research published on Journal of Clinical Gastroenterology "Celiac Disease Could Have Been the Cause of Caesar's Epilepsy." Giulio 1987pascal (talk) 10:10, 4 July 2016 (UTC)http://journals.lww.com/jcge/Citation/publishahead/Celiac_Disease_Could_Have_Been_the_Cause_of.98260.aspxGiulio 1987pascal (talk) 10:10, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

In 2016, academic student Imparato F. published the article "Celiac Disease Could Have Been the Cause of Caesar's Epilepsy", arguing that atypical form of coeliac disease can rightly be included among the possible causes of the Emperor’s ailment. Indeed signs such as “ Very pale man of notable thinness, affected by alopecia”, giddiness, recurrent headaches, depression and obviously epilepsy, (description handed down by Plutarch and Suetonius), may also fall outside of apparent gastrointestinal manifestations, in 10% of patients with coeliac disease. Therefore, Imparato F declares how it’s difficult for neurocysticercosis and strokes explain an inherited event, and for the latter, placate with typical Mediterranean diet, based on spelt, bread and cereals.

See Journal of Clinical Gastroenterology:Celiac Disease Could Have Been the Cause of Caesar's Epilepsy. Imparato, Fabio.doi: 10.1097/MCG.0000000000000558

Giulio 1987pascal (talk) 10:10, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done. Your request doesn't specify how you think the text should be changed. Try searching epilepsy in the talk page archives (see top of page). It's far from certain (even highly unlikely) that Caesar had epilepsy or any other major health problem. Statements by ancient sources are not grounds for diagnosis, let alone prognosis, at a distance of 2,000 years. Please also read Julius Caesar#Health and physical appearance, which imho is already overburdened with such theories. Haploidavey (talk) 10:17, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Simply add this new theory below the others which are exposed in the paragraph; at the end of paragraph "Health and physical appearance".

However, sincerely I don’t have any idea what do you mean for “let alone prognosis”, since I did not expose any prognosis, and the article that I have mentioned does not talk too. Therefore, this is an encyclopedia, which should aim to convey accumulated knowledge, so that it may be used as a work of reference. Considering these facts, I suppose that the article about Caesar’s ailment should report all hypotheses claimed by researches, advanced in course of years, or anyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giulio 1987pascal (talkcontribs) 19:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

On the prognosis, you're right. You didn't mention it, and nor does your suggested source. Apologies. However, that does not detract from my argument against inclusion. Such theories emerge with some regularity from fields completely unrelated to the scholarly study of history. This article must be based on works by modern historians, published by reputable publishers and appraised by their peers. And it's not wikipedia's job to report all hypotheses and claims about anything and everything. A positive review of the paper and its theory by a reputable specialist in the field of Roman history (not medicine) might justify its use here. As far as I can tell, no such review exists. Sorry. Haploidavey (talk) 20:13, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Of course, if consensus among those who watch this page favours the inclusion of the source and content, that's fine. So far, I've been the only one to respond. Any takers? Haploidavey (talk) 20:24, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

I think your considerations are probably right. I just want to advance the idea that all founded and published hypotheses, based on symptoms, handed down by historical sources, should be considered at the same way; Obviously regarding their plausibility. I have found it plausible and then i have made a request, no more than that. I just hope that historians will consider it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giulio 1987pascal (talkcontribs) 21:07, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Family Tree[edit]

The family diagram does not contain Caesarion.


"In 48 BC, Caesar was given permanent tribunician powers"[edit]

I was unable to find this claim on the given source page (Abbot, page 135: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hn6hzq;view=1up;seq=139), nor in the adjacent pages, nor in the section that later deal with 48 BC. Please correct me if I'm wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skoskav~enwiki (talkcontribs) 13:51, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

I can't figure out how to change this - the article summary right under the page name has some nonsense in Spanish that looks like vandalism. Helikophis (talk) Helikophis (talk) 18:47, 19 March 2017 (UTC)