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- 1 Source 18 is irrelevant
- 2 Details on federal banks and courts, and on Silicon Valley in lead
- 3 Briefly Detailing the Importance of Silicon Valley in lead relating to San Francisco
- 4 Climate
- 5 San Francisco Sports
- 6 Tourism and conventions
- 7 Transportation: Public Transportation
- 8 Moved homelessness from Law and Government/Crime to Demographics/Education, Households, and Income
- 9 Crime - recent trends
Source 18 is irrelevant
Source 18, which directs to a Euromonitor blog, in no way validates the claim that San Francisco is the 44th top tourist destination in the world, nor the 6th top in America, as stated in the introduction. A new source ought to be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs)
Details on federal banks and courts, and on Silicon Valley in lead
Seetler has been adding detail to the lead that I think is too much, which I've reverted a number of times now. I think there's too much on the federal bank and appeals court, especially with regard to their size and when there's more detail in the lead on the subject than in the article. I also don't think we need to talk about Silicon Valley in detail, enumerating private companies headquartered there (especially when Twitter, which is actually in SF, isn't mentioned with equal prominence). Dhtwiki (talk) 12:16, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Briefly Detailing the Importance of Silicon Valley in lead relating to San Francisco
I believe that Dhtwiki is removing crucial details that helps the user understand the city of San Francisco. I strongly believe that the value of discussing the role banks and Silicon Valley in the header of San Francisco. Even if it's a brief sentence. When most people think of SF, they think of technology and the financial systems that support it.
What do you think of when you say SF? rich techies. Silicon Valley and Venture Capital, and the average user needs to understand its relation to SF.
- Leaving aside the undue amount of detail, you're putting in the first paragraph of the lead material that is more suitable to the third, where banks and companies (but not the courts) are mentioned. Dhtwiki (talk) 16:36, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
- You haven't addressed the concerns about having so much financial detail in the lead at all and its being misplaced in the first paragraph. You need to propose wording and positioning here, and then wait for agreement (i.e. consensus) before you go changing the article again. Also, you need to remember to indent and sign your posts. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:13, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Lieutenant of Melkor, introduced citations
<ref name = NOAA/> without defining them. The article has been with these broken refs ever since. Someone familiar with climate data should see if what the section says is really backed up by – NOAA and if so, properly adding these citations – or, failing that, return old sourced content from the preceding diff. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:59, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
San Francisco Sports
I have added a brief description to the sports sub category about the Golden State Warriors because even though they are not exclusive to San Francisco, a large portion of their fan base resides there.
"The San Francisco Warriors played in the NBA from 1962-1971, before being renamed the Golden State Warriors prior to the 1971- 1972 season in an attempt to present the team as a representation of the whole state of California. The Warrior's stadium, Oracle Arena, is currently located in Oakland, California. They have won 4 championships, including their most recent in 2015."
Tourism and conventions
I have added just a few of the most popular tourist attractions described by the Travel Channel.
"Some of the most popular tourist attractions in San Francisco noted by the Travel Channel include the Golden Gate Bridge and Alamo Square Park, which is home to the famous "Painted Ladies". Both of these locations were often used as landscape shots for the hit American sitcom Full House. There is also Lombard Street, known for its "crookedness" and beautiful views. Tourists also flood to Pier 39, which offers dining, shopping, entertainment, and beautiful views of the bay, sun-bathing seals ,and the famous Alcatraz Island.
San Francisco also offers tourists cultural and unique nightlife in its neighborhoods."
Transportation: Public Transportation
I have added a brief description about the private buses being supplied by Silicon Valley companies and their effect on city buses.
"To accommodate the large amount of San Francisco citizens who commute to the Silicon Valley daily, companies like Google and Apple have begun to provide private bus transportation for their employees, from San Francisco locations to the tech start-up hotspot. These buses have quickly become a heated topic of debate within the city, as protesters claim they block bus lanes and delay public buses."
Moved homelessness from Law and Government/Crime to Demographics/Education, Households, and Income
I've moved Homelessness from Law and Government/Crime to Demographics/Education, Households, and Income as it is a demographic condition, not a crime.
I've also removed the reference to homelessness from the list of crimes that are common to the Tenderloin in the Crime section. When homelessness is indeed common in the Tenderloin, it is again not a crime to be homeless and therefore not specifically relevant to the Crime section.
Crime - recent trends
For the past few years, it is generally known that crime has been rising in San Francisco, perhaps at an alarming rate. After 2015 data came in, which I realized when I saw some numbers change on familiar cities, I checked San Francisco on neighborhoodscout.com to see that San Francisco is now a 2 out of 100, lower than it was before, while other cities went up. Of course changes can mean other places got better or worse, but San Francisco is definitely quite bad at this point. Oakland is a 1 and Berkeley is a 3, I believe Berkeley moved down, and Oakland moved up, from being a 0. Rochester, New York and Miami moved up, New York City's boroughs seem pretty level, I don't remember the old numbers. B137 (talk) 04:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)