1884–85 Dumbarton F.C. season

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Dumbarton
1884–85 season
Stadium Boghead Park, Dumbarton
Scottish Cup Third Round

Season 1884–85 was the 12th Scottish football season in which Dumbarton competed at a national level, entering the Scottish Cup for the 12th time.

Overview[edit]

Dumbarton's run in the Scottish Cup was short-lived as they were knocked out in the third round by Pollokshields Athletic.[1]

As the sport continued to grow, so did the demand for more competitive football, and so began the setting up of regional competitions for clubs in specific counties/cities, the first was nine years earlier with the first playing of the East of Scotland Shield (formerly the Edinburgh FA Cup) and with the formation of the Dumbartonshire Football Association in March 1884, the first Dumbartonshire Cup was put up for competition. With three of the strongest teams in the country at the time playing out of Dumbartonshire, it was no easy feat to win the cup, and Dumbarton required to see off both of their strongest local rivals, Renton in the first round and Vale of Leven in the final, to become the first winners for the county cup.

Dumbarton also reached the final of the Glasgow Charity Cup for the second time. Three tough matches against Rangers were followed by a final against their old adversary Queen's Park, where they lost by the only goal.

During the season, 22 'other' matches were played, including a 0-0 draw against Queen's Park to celebrate the opening of the 'new' Hampden Park and 5 games were played against English opposition with mixed success. Overall, of these matches, 9 were won, 7 drawn and 6 lost, scoring 50 goals and conceding 30.

Results[edit]

Win
Draw
Loss

All results are written with Dumbarton's score first.

Scottish Cup[edit]

Date Rd Opponent Venue Result Scorers Attendance
R1 Leverndale WO
4 October 1884 R2 Albion H 2-0 Hutton;unknown
25 October 1884 R3 Pollokshields Athletic A 1-4 unknown

Dumbartonshire Cup[edit]

Date Rd Opponent Venue Result Scorers Attendance
1 November 1884 R1 Renton H 4-0 Lindsay(2);Brown;unknown 5,000
13 December 1884 R2 Helensburgh Athletic H 10-1 Lindsay(2);Liddell;Brown;Wilson;Miller,J;McAulay;unknown(3)
17 January 1885 SF Yoker H 3-1 Wilson;Keir;Watt
28 March 1885 F Vale of Leven A 3-0 Lindsay(2);McKinnon 3,000

Glasgow Charity Cup[edit]

Date Rd Opponent Venue Result Scorers Attendance
11 April 1885 SF Rangers A 2-2 OG(2) 3,500
18 April 1885 SFr Rangers A 1-1 unknown 5,000
2 May 1885 SFr Rangers A 1-0 Lindsay 7,000
9 May 1885 F Queen's Park A 0-1 3,500

Other Matches[edit]

Date Opponent Venue Result Scorers Attendance
30 August 1884 Partick Thistle H 4-1 unknown
13 September 1884 EnglandWalsall Swifts H 2-0 Brown;Keir
20 September 1884 Renfrew H 3-0 Meikleham(2);McAulay
27 September 1884 Rangers A 2-3 Brown,R(S);unknown 3,000
18 October 1884 Queen's Park A 0-0 6,000
15 November 1884 Clyde H 6-2 unknown
22 November 1884 Renton A 3-2 Liddell(2);Lindsay 5,000
29 November 1884 Queen's Park H 1-1 Brown 3,000
20 December 1884 Vale of Leven A 6-1 Liddell(2);Lindsay;Brown,R(S);OG;unknown 5,000
27 December 1884 Queen's Park A 1-2 Brown 5,000
1 January 1885 EnglandBlackburn Rovers A 0-2 10,000
2 January 1885 EnglandAstley Bridge A 0-4
3 January 1885 EnglandWalsall Swifts A 1-1 Kennedy 2,000
5 January 1885 EnglandAston Villa A 1-1 Liddell 5,000
24 January 1885 Port Glasgow Athletic A 3-3 Brown;unknown(2)
7 February 1885 Abercorn A 3-0 unknown
14 February 1885 Hibernian A 1-2 Keir 2,500
14 March 1885 Arthurlie H 1-3 unknown 2,500
21 March 1885 Jamestown H 1-1 OG
4 April 1885 Hearts H 3-0 McKinnon(2);McMillan
25 April 1885 Airdrie H 1-1 OG
16 May 1885 Dundee Our Boys A 7-0 Lindsay(4);McKinnon(2);Kennedy

Player statistics[edit]

Squad[2][edit]

No. Pos Nat Player Total Scottish Cup
Apps Goals Apps Goals
GK Scotland James McAulay 2 0 2 0
DF Scotland Jock Hutcheson 2 0 2 0
DF Scotland Hugh Wilson 2 0 2 0
MF Scotland Leitch Keir 2 0 2 0
MF Scotland Peter Miller 2 0 2 0
FW Scotland Black 1 0 1 0
FW Scotland Robert 'Plumber' Brown 2 0 2 0
FW Scotland Robert 'Sparrow' Brown 2 0 2 0
FW Scotland Hutton 1 1 1 1
FW Scotland Andrew Kennedy 1 0 1 0
FW Scotland James Liddell 2 0 2 0
FW Scotland Joe Lindsay 1 0 1 0
FW Scotland William McKinnon 1 0 1 0
FW Scotland Michael Paton 1 0 1 0

International Caps[edit]

An international trial match was played on 7 March 1885 to consider selection of teams to represent Scotland in the upcoming games against England and Wales in the 1885 British Home Championship. Robert 'Plumber' Brown, Joe Lindsay, James McAulay and Michael Paton all took part.

Subsequently, five Dumbarton players were selected to play, as follows:

- Robert 'Plumber' Brown and Leitch Keir both earned their first caps against Wales.

- Joe Lindsay earned his sixth and seventh caps against England and Wales respectively. He scored the only goal in the 1-1 draw against the English - and scored a hat-trick in the 8-1 defeat of Wales.

- James McAulay earned his fifth and sixth caps against England and Wales respectively.

- Michael Paton earned his third and fourth caps against England and Wales respectively.

County Caps[edit]

The Dumbartonshire Football Association played three representative matches during the season and Dumbarton players were selected to play as follows:

Date Opponent Result Players(Goals)
11 October 1884 Glasgow 3-3 McAulay;Keir;Brown,P;Brown,S(1);Lindsay;Miller
31 January 1885 Renfrewshire 4-2 McAuley;Hutcheson;Miller;Brown,P;Lindsay;Liddell(1)
7 March 1885 Edinburgh 4-1 Hutcheson;Miller;Keir;Brown,S;McKinnon(1)

In addition on the same day as the Edinburgh match, an 'Other Counties' team played against a Glasgow XI, with McAulay; Paton; Brown (Plumber) and Lindsay all selected.

Transfers[edit]

Of note amongst those donning the club's colours for the first time was Ralph Aitken.

Reserve Team[edit]

Dumbarton withdrew from the Second Eleven Association in protest at the unsuccessful attempt to have the previous year's final against Kilmarnock Athletic replayed.

See also[edit]

References[edit]

  1. ^ Smailes, Gordon (1995). The Breedon Book of Scottish Football Records. Derby: Breedon Books. ISBN 1-85983-020-X. 
  2. ^ McAllister, Jim (2002). The Sons of the Rock - The Official History of Dumbarton Football Club. Dumbarton: J&J Robertson Printers. 

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