Talk:Diana, Princess of Wales

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Question[edit]

Wasn't Diana a vegetarian? Why isn't that mentioned? In modern times, that is a relavent political statement. It is an identity, she was also responsible for unforgettable banquets such as the 17-course meatless dinner served by the British Embassy during her first visit to the United States in her honor.

To further illustrate this point, she also annoyed the Royal Family by not paricipating in hunting events, she made it clear to her wardrobe designers that fur could not be used even as decoration on her clothes.

Her stance on animal rights and her vegetarianism should at least be mentioned.

Sources: Diana is vegetarian. http://www.time.com/time/daily/special/diana/readingroom/8191/11_11.html

I didn't know. But I agree, this really should be mentioned. Maybe the astonishing 17-course meatless dinner as well. Boscaswell talk 07:11, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
That time.com link above no longer seems to work? This source suggests that she was not vegetarian, but just "hell-bent on avoiding red meat and carbs at all costs." Martinevans123 (talk) 09:33, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Image[edit]

Why not use an actual-color image instead of a low quality colorized one? MB298 (talk) 00:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@MB298: You're right, but we don't have a high quality actual-color image either, so using this one is the only option. Meanwhile I have given a request to a graphist here on Wikipedia to recreate the image in JPG format, which will be much better in comparison to the current PNG one. Keivan.fTalk 08:14, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
What about the one that was there previously? I'm sorry, but the colourised version is not very good and certainly not the only option. Aiken D 17:56, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
@Aiken drum: As I said, the previous image is of low quality as well. The sun light and shadows obviously make it difficult to see her face, besides she looks so sad or perhaps annoyed, so using the colorized version seems to be the logical option. I'll talk to the graphists again to create a JPG format of the black and white photo. Keivan.fTalk 04:59, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
It looks fine to me, no need to use a colourised photo. Aiken D 06:00, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
I absolutely have respect for you and your opinion but I don't agree with you at all. I also don't see any obstacle in using a high-quality colorized photo. That's why I also agreed to remove that PNG file just like you, as I'm waiting for the one with JPG format to be uploaded. Keivan.fTalk 02:50, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
I would certainly strongly oppose a colourised image replacing a perfectly fine true colour photo. If you're serious about changing it, we'll need to get more opinions. Aiken D 19:35, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

No mention of her taboo-breaking re. HIV+ people...[edit]

...in the lede! Surely this *has* to be mentioned there? This was one of the most groundbreaking things she did. Boscaswell talk 07:08, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

@Boscaswell: I think we already have a section here which explains the charity works she had done in relation to HIV/AIDS and the people affected with that disease. Keivan.fTalk 22:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
@Keivan.f: I was referring to what I think should be done, which is to have it mentioned in the lead/lede. It was incredibly important at the time, it was ground-breaking. My feeling is that the lede reads as if those types of things which she did weren't really that important. I know that her work with landlines is mentioned there, and by all accounts that changed everything as far as the use of landlines is concerned. A similar thing can be said about her work with HIV+ people, at the time, the average Joe believed, was conditioned to believe by the tabloid media, that if you got close to one of "those people", you were at risk. Diana changed all that. To my mind, that necessitates a mention in the lede. Can you agree? Boscaswell talk 08:26, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
@Boscaswell: Agreed! Sorry, it seems that I interpreted what you had written in a wrong way, that's why I was a little bit confused at first because I just had a quick look and thought you were trying to say that the information about her work with HIV/AIDS needs to be added to the article. Anyway, I feel you are right, and her work with HIV+ people is of enough importance to be mentioned in the lede. I don't think anyone opposes what you have suggested so feel free to add what piece of information you think is necessary. Keivan.fTalk 03:48, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

20th anniversary[edit]

Its 20 years since she passed away. Is it alright to put up something to mark her 20th anniversary?

How come there is no pictures of the Paris Tunnel and the Mercedes Benz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.103.25.137 (talk) 13:56, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Because at the time, no free pictures of neither the tunnel nor the car are available. Information regarding the 20th anniversary of her death has already been added. Keivan.fTalk 10:19, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Notice to anonymous users and page workers: Indef Semi[edit]

I have just filed a request for semi protection ( IDC whether its one month or a decade) for this page because 2/3 of the hsitory int he last month are dedicated to the shrine of Vandalism. L3X1 (distænt write) 16:40, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Following an admin endorsement, this article is now under indefinite semi-protection.

Thanks, L3X1 (distænt write) 20:12, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 September 2017[edit]

Please change "was the fourth child and third daughter of John Spencer, Viscount Althorp..." to "was the third child and third daughter of John Spencer, Viscount Althorp..." AmandaLPerry (talk) 11:18, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

For the purposes of the summary at the top of the article, I think this should say something simpler such as "youngest daughter", which is really the key point. That her elder brother died within hours of birth is not really something that is usually mentioned in very short summaries of Diana's life and the present wording is slightly misleading since the death of the third child is not mentioned and the short-lived elder brother is not an important part of Diana's own story anyway. Celia Homeford (talk) 12:03, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Done Changed to "youngest daughter" per MOS:LEAD. Aquick Ghits comparison shows a plurality of usage of "youngest" versus "third" and many of the latter appear to be copied from or mirrors of this article. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:37, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

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Barry Mannakee[edit]

Very odd that there is no mention in this article of Barry Mannakee: In a tape recorded by Diana, Princess of Wales's voice coach Peter Settelen in 1992, Diana admitted herself that in 1984 through to 1986, she had been "deeply in love with someone who worked in this environment."[1][2] Although she never used his name, it is thought she was referring to Mannakee; in 1986, Mannakee was transferred to the Diplomatic Protection Squad after his managers had determined his relationship with Diana had been "inappropriate,..."[1][3] with Diana saying in the tape that Mannakee had been "chucked out" from his role as her bodyguard following suspicion that the two were having an affair. She said "I was only happy when he was around" and that his death was "the biggest blow of my life."[4][5][6]

  1. ^ a b Langley, By William. "The Mannakee file". Telegraph.co.uk. Retrieved 31 July 2017. 
  2. ^ Yaqoob, Janine (30 July 2017). "Princess Diana's fears bodyguard 'she was deeply in love with' was "bumped off"". mirror. Retrieved 31 July 2017. 
  3. ^ Cite error: The named reference Independent_8Dec2004 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  4. ^ "BBC NEWS | UK | Diana 'wanted to live with guard'". news.bbc.co.uk. Retrieved 31 July 2017. 
  5. ^ Cite error: The named reference Sun_30Jul2017 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  6. ^ Joseph, Claudia. "the curse of diana Princess Diana was the most desirable woman on earth, yet her lovers were stalked by scandal, embarrassment and death". The Sun (UK) 15 July 2017. Retrieved 2 August 2017. When Diana, just 23, suffered post-natal depression after the birth of Harry in September 1984, 37-year-old Mannakee became a father figure and confidant...