Template talk:Europe topic

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European Union[edit]

Some people want to split this template into EU and non-EU. There's been a bit of an edit war, so I thought I'd kick off discussion.

I think this should not be done because this template is very widely used and I don't see that the division between EU and non-EU is so unique that it alone needs to be flagged up here. Kahastok talk 18:01, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. EU versus non-EU is fairly irrelevant for most of the uses, and EU members are still sovereign states. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:04, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Two problems[edit]

See the template "Made in Europe" in Swiss made for an example.

  1. The header links to Made in Europe - one of Deep Purple's best albums, but not exactly relevant.
  2. Sweden links to Made in Sweden - which is a DAB page with four entries (an album, a band, a film and a TV series), none of which have anything to do with manufacture in Sweden. Unsurprisingly, User:DPL bot has complained. Narky Blert (talk) 00:18, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
I am guessing you fixed this since I can't figure out the source of any particular problem. "what links here" isn't returning anything related to this template, outside of this talk page. Frietjes (talk) 14:47, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
@Frietjes: I didn't fix the problems, but some kind editor seems to have done so. However, I've just noticed that Switzerland in the template links to Swiss Made, which is a circular link back to Swiss made and thus not black-bolded. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 13:05, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
@Narky Blert: The "Made in Europe" navbox was removed.[1] Use the "V T E" links in the "Country of origin" template to see, discuss or change the links there. Category:Country of origin has potential links. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:31, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: TY. I've made that tiny tweak to Template:COO - same target, but a direct link to it. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 13:39, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Liechtenstein should link to Switzerland[edit]

... in the case of road rules, as in{{Europe topic|Road signs in}}. Thanks. -- ZH8000 (talk) 12:50, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

{{Europe topic|Road signs in}} creates a link to Road signs in Liechtenstein. You can create a redirect to Road signs in Switzerland but then it should say more about Liechtenstein than a single "(Liechtenstein only)" in a caption, which by the way is otherwise in German and has a placeholder image so there is zero English content about Liechtenstein. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:29, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Regions of Germany[edit]

Regions of Germany is a DAB page. It is linked through the template in Outline of Europe#Regions of Europe. User:DPL bot reports the link as a WP:INTDABLINK error. Can it be fixed? Narky Blert (talk) 12:55, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Fixed with |DE=Regierungsbezirk to link Regierungsbezirk for Germany.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 13:48, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Former states[edit]

I want Trade unions in the Soviet Union to show up in the nav box "Trade unions in Europe" ({{Europe topic|Trade unions in}}). But I can't figure out how to make former states show up there. Can someone help? Karmanatory (talk) 02:15, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

@Karmanatory: Former countries were only supported in January–February 2016. They were removed after Template talk:Europe topic/Archive 4#Former European countries.[3] They were only partially removed from the documentation. I have removed them completely.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 00:15, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


Could someone with better knowledge than my own explain why the "Fire Services in Europe" infobox, based on this template, doesn't include Vatican City? See it, for example, at the bottom of this page: Fire fighting in Finland. Thank you. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 13:06, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

See Template:Europe topic#Vatican City. Vatican City is only included if the expected page name for {{Europe topic|Fire services in}} exists. I have created a redirect from Fire services in Vatican City to Corps of Firefighters of the Vatican City State. You could also have linked it directly without the redirect with {{Europe topic|Fire services in|VA=Corps of Firefighters of the Vatican City State}}. But without a redirect this would have to be repeated in each article calling {{Europe topic}} directly. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:06, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I'm not sure I entirely agree with the reasoning, but it is good to have the explanation. Thank you also for sorting the specific issue here - I'm most grateful. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 19:06, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

hlist, below lines not working - Template:Catholic Church in Europe[edit]

Greetings, The two Portal lines do not show for belowclass = hlist using this template, after numerous attempts, I am still not able to get this "below" line to appear. Asking for Expert Help to solve the issue. Many of the Catholicism templates use "Navbox" template with Groups & Lists. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 12:20, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

{{Europe topic}} has no below or belowclass parameters and doesn't claim to have it. We could easily pass them on to {{Navbox}} with this:
| below = {{{below|}}}
| belowclass = {{{belowclass|}}}
Should we? I examined several in Category:Configurable area-topic templates. The only who did it was {{United States topic}}. If one continent template does it then users will expect all to do it so we might have to make the same edits to several templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Sorry PrimeHunter that I don't understand what any of this means. I was hoping there is an easy fix to enable "below" line to show on this template. Should I take this issue to "WP"VPT"? 13:27, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
There is no reason for WP:VPT. I know how it works but wait to see if others express an opinion. A template call can only use parameters which are implemented in the template code. below is currently not implemented in {{Europe topic}}, and hasn't been requested in the 12 years the template has existed. It would be easy to implement with the above code but one of the issues with {{Europe topic}} is that it's often called directly by articles and then all articles for the same topic would have to add the same below parameter to be consistent, that probably wouldn't happen in practice and then you get confusing results where the "same" navbox has different content on different articles. For example, dozens of articles like Time in Norway say {{Europe topic|Time in}}. If one of the articles add a below parameter then it would only appear in that article. Your example {{Catholic Church in Europe}} wouldn't have this problem if articles call that template and automatically get the same below parameter from there. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:09, 7 October 2017 (UTC)