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Bretch hill[edit]

in an edit to the article bretch hill you included orchard fields into the schools section, i would consider orchard fields in neithrop especiaqlly as it used to be neithrop infants and junior school. seing as many people think that they are the same estate do you think i should merge the article neithrop i was about to create? Thatperson 07:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that might be a good idea. I included Orchard Fields based on the fact that I grew up on the Bretch Hill estate and went to that school myself (when it was still called the Neithrop) and knew lots of other children from the estate who went there too (though admittedly this was before William Morris existed). Perhaps the main article should be Neithrop and Bretch Hill should be a subsection within it. MFlet1 11:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

ive expanded the article to include neithrop, also do you have any idea about the boundries of neithrop/brecth hill, i say this because i may add some more on churches later and im not sure which estate the fairway church falls into. Thatperson

I'm not sure there's any official boundary but I tend to think of Hastings Road, Prescott Avenue and Edmunds Road as all being part of the Bretch Hill estate as they were built at the same time, and The Fairway, Withycombe Drive etc as being part of Neithrop.MFlet1 14:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

i glad i found you online, do you know anything about other estates in the town because i think it would be good if we could have an article (or conjoined ones) about ewach estate in the town, i may do hardwick ruscote later as i know quite a bit about them both. i notice oxford has articles on each ward so it may be a good idea to sdo the same for banbury. Thatperson 19:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, in answer to your question, I don't really know anything about the other estates as I've hardly ever visited them! MFlet1 21:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
A lot of hard work, A lot gone unnoticed. I cant believe you havent got one of these before, keep up the good work. :) Thatperson 17:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Cheers TP!

Samantha Juste[edit]

See my comments on the talk page. Bit patronising to say it, I know, but if you were in your 50s and not 40, you would KNOW that S Juste was the only British Samantha of the 1960s! Even so, have taken our for now; the Bewitched link is probably relevant - most likely the source of her adoptive name - but, again, although I didn't say it was, some evidence is needed. So I suppose I agree with you, in a way!IXIA 06:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I do apologise for its tone: you are almost certainly right that she couldn't have got the name from Bewitched, but there's no doubt that - as every schoolboy knew at the time! - there were really only two Samanthas - Elizabeth M and Sam J. Anyway, I've revised and will try to improve further. Really grateful for comments. Best wishes. IXIA 18:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Henry Cosby[edit]

Hi I guess, you misunderstood the Edit on this page, it was not vandalism but an actual fact. Hi did die after a cardiac bypass sugery at that hospital 162.82.215.199 19:29, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

You're right, and in fact I found this out afterwards by Googling and re-instated his death date in the article. I suppose I assumed it was vandalism because of the "GO HANK!" at the end of it. MFlet1 23:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Cheers[edit]

thanks for the barnstar, banbury now has a 1:960 article:population ratio lol :) Thatperson 12:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


Hey MFlet1, my apologies if you feel the added reference to the banbury page (after Kraft Foods) was not relevant, but I thought it was for the following reason: Kraft food's is the world's larget coffee producer, Westminster is one of the few (if not the only) UK independent Anti-Terror company. Also, Banbury is its hometown, and Tony Baldry, the Banbury MP, has even spoken of the company which led to a debate in the House of Commons over supplying hardware to the British forces in Iraq. Hence, why I assumed it was relevant?! It hosts some of the world's most sophisticated equipment and many famous foreign representatives, to mention no names, who end up spending time in Banbury. Your thoughts? Mcneillg 12:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

re: Category:Date of birth missing[edit]

Good evening. Per the discussion about privacy concerns expressed at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of birthdays, date of birth should generally not be added to the biographies of living non-public or semi-public figures. So far, that policy has been interpreted fairly strictly with a pretty high bar being set for the definition of "public figures" who are assumed to have given up their rights to privacy.

By the same token, we should not be adding Category:Date of birth missing to articles unless we have made the case that the person meets the "public figures" threshold. Otherwise, we're just baiting new users into adding content even though the community has already said that we shouldn't include that particular data point. Category:Year of birth missing is okay but the exact date is often not. Thanks for your help. Rossami (talk) 23:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

The article I tripped over was [Bredin]. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 14:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Crime in Leeds[edit]

Are we adding the crime section in Leeds from the discussion page or not. If no-one has any objections then I'll add it, and if they do, then I'd like to hear their reasons. I've lived in Leeds my whole life and can say all the crime roumers people hear are all true.

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Reversed modification about "Substitute" by the Clout[edit]

Hi Mflet1, I have reversed you redirect to the Righteous Bros. I'm could not complies with your opinion since this page is dedicated to the Clout single, using the cover. Another wikipedian had moved the content of this page to the one named Righteous Bros, Substitute song. If the content is so similar, this is the answer. I have also moded the Righteous Bros page in the past, in order to avoid duplicate in the fair use licence devoted to the single cover. I hope you will agree, despite of my poor grammar. Kumeon (talk) 16:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Banbury Cross[edit]

Hi. You've just removed my image on Banbury. If Banbury is known for one thing it is its cross, yet there was no picture of it, despite the article describing it in detail, and its approximation to the new 'fine lady' statue. My carefully composed picture shows both. Perhaps you should have removed the other picture if you consider two pictures to be 'overkill'? ♦ Jongleur100 talk 13:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

You've got a point actually. I didn't realise there were no other photos of the cross in the article... Have now reinstated your photo and removed the other one. MFlet1 (talk) 21:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. ♦ Jongleur100 talk 23:43, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Jessica Alba/Larry David[edit]

Hello, You reverted my edits on these pages. I think ethnic background is appropriate for wikipedia. I have references for the statements, as follows. I have been trying to replace the edits but keep getting error messages, as I think wikipedia is having problems today.

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York meetup[edit]

Hi MFlet1. Just to let you know there is a Wikimedia meetup being planned in York for Tuesday. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:34, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

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Woolwich attack[edit]

What was said was said. You cannot correct the grammar of a direct transcript. If the man said "a eye for a eye" then that is the way it must remain.

Amandajm (talk) 11:51, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree, but I have to admit I didn't watch the video and thought it was an error by the person transcribing rather than an exact quote. If it's the latter then arguably it ought to say "[sic]" to make this clear. MFlet1 (talk) 12:11, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello! I don't know if you're aware but there is a wikimedia meet up in Leeds this Saturday (14 June) if you're interested. Hopefully you can make it. Regards IJA (talk) 17:51, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

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David Brough[edit]

Hi, I see that you made this edit - I don't need to check the source to know that it's correct. David and I were in the same year at the same school when he decided to run; the legality of his nomination was questioned because of his age - he was still 17 years old at the time (I was 18) - until we found out that it was perfectly legal for him to stand for election, although if elected he wouldn't be allowed to take his seat until his 18th birthday. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi - yes, I was also at the same school at the same time, though in the year below. In fact the minimum age for MPs was 21 in those days so even if he'd already turned 18 he wouldn't have been able to take his seat in the (to say the least) unlikely event of getting elected. One other fact I remember, and which I've been able to verify thanks to Wikipedia, is that he got more votes than Lord Sutch himself who was standing in the same election in Finchley! MFlet1 (talk) 12:22, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Great - were you at that school from age 11, or did you transfer there at 16? --Redrose64 (talk) 13:35, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Transferred at 16 (from Drayton). MFlet1 (talk) 14:34, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
I was Warriner until 16. I do remember some kids from Drayton, but forgot all their names years ago. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:12, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Regarding the 1979 election - "M White" was our history teacher at Warriner. I'm pretty sure his first name is Martin or possibly Malcolm.
Regarding the October 1974 election - "J Barbour" might be Julian Barbour, who has lived at South Newington since at least 1969. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:50, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks for that. I've tried to find sources for that but haven't found anything. Also, if it really was the physicist Julian Barbour who stood as an "Independent English Nationalist", you'd think that there'd be something on his website that would hint at such a worldview, but I can't see anything. MFlet1 (talk) 11:21, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Julian Barbour was certainly involved in politics - he stood in local elections in the late 1970s or early 1980s, although I don't recall whether for Labour or Liberal/SDP - he definitely didn't stand for the Conservatives. His brother David also stood occasionally, again I don't recall whether for Labour or Liberal/SDP. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:11, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
In chapter 16 of "The End of Time" (found via Google Books) it states that for a couple of years in the early 1980s he gave up physics and was active in the SDP. Also I found this Banbury Guardian article about him taking part in an anti-war protest in 2003. So it could be him standing in '74, though being in the SDP doesn't seem to chime with being an "English nationalist" very well. MFlet1 (talk) 11:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Ah, chapter 16 (p. 238) - I've not read that far, giving up round about chapter 11. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:50, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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1966: When Judy Collins met Leonard Cohen[edit]

1966: When Judy Collins met Leonard Cohen

Thank you User:MFlet1 for your comments, revert on the Leonard Cohen page, but the year in question is definitely 1966 when Judy Collins met and introduced Cohen, definitely not 1977, as he would have needed no introduction by that date.

Here is the story, in Collins' own words:

The source of the following text is the autobiography of Judy Collins. (Pages 145-147 of the hardbound edition or 144-146 of the paperback edition). Thanks to Rudi Schmid (Berkeley) for this information.

"I met Leonard Cohen in 1966, when my Canadian friend Mary Martin arranged for us to meet. Leonard had been a published and successful writer and poet for many years, and had recently written his first songs, he came down from Canada one night, and I listened to his songs in my living room.

He sang Suzanne and Dress Rehearsal Rag that night, sitting on the couch, holding the guitar on his knee. I was moved by his singing voice, and by the songs, and by his whole presence. There was something very ethereal and at the same time earthy about his voice; when Leonard sang, I was entranced. I became immediately devoted to him, and we soon were friends.

I often saw Leonard when he came to New York, he would check into the Chelsea Hotel on Twenty-third Street, and we would have tea together and walk around Greenwich Village. I recorded Suzanne and Dress Rehearsal Rag on In My Life in 1966, and it went gold in 1967. With the records's success, Leonard became known as a songwriter.

I suggested he make his debut and sing in public, but he was terribly shy.I knew once he got over his fear, he would be powerful on stage. I was going to appear at a concert for Sane against the Vietnam War at Town Hall, on April 30, 1967. I asked Leonard if he would sing Suzanne there.

"I can't do it, Judy, I would die from embarrassment."

"Leonard, you are a great writer and a fine singer, people want to hear you." He finally agreed, reluctantly.

When I introduced him, he walked onto the stage hesitantly, his guitar slung across his hips, and from the wings I could see his legs shaking inside his trousers, he began Suzanne, with the hushed audience leaning forward in their seats; he got halfway through the first verse and stopped.

"I can't go on," he said, and left the stage, while the audience clapped and shouted, calling for him to come back. "We love you, you're great!" Their voices followed him backstage, where he stood with his head on my shoulder, my arms around him.

"I can't do it, I can't go back." He smiled his handsome smile. He looked about ten years old, his mouth drew down at the sides, he started to untangle himself from his guitar strap. I stopped him, touching him on the shoulder.

"But you will," I said. He shook himself and drew his body up and put his shoulders back, smiled again, and walked back onto the stage, he finished Suzanne, and the audience went wild. He has been giving concerts ever since.

I have loved and recorded so many of his songs--Sisters of Mercy, Joan of Arc, Priests, Hey, That's No Way to Say Goodbye, Famous Blue Raincoat, The Story of Isaac, Suzanne, Take This Longing, and Dress Rehearsal Rag [she forgot Bird on the Wire], his songs carried me through dark years like mantras or stones that you hold in your hand while the sun rises or the fire burns. They kept me centered as I stood in front of thousands of people, my eyes closed, my hands around the neck of a guitar, my voice singing his ethereal lyrics; the audience responded to his writing, the songs were like water to a person dying of thirst. They were songs for the spirit when our spirits were strained to the breaking point."

From Judy Collins: Trust your heart: An autobiography. Houghton Mifflin Co. Boston, 1987, ISBN 0-395-41285-4 (hardbound), no index. Paperback reprint: Fawcett Crest, New York, Feb. 1989, ISBN 0-449-21662-4 (paperbound).

"I think of great songwriters as Gods and Goddesses. Bringing me gifts, as surely tagged with my name as though they had been written especially for me. I hunt, searching for the best. Sometimes I get lucky; that year [1965] my friend Mary Martin introduced me to Leonard Cohen. He had written his first songs, and played me Suzanne and Dress Rehearsal Rag; the songs were stunning, and I recorded both.

Leonard, a published poet and novelist, was very shy and nervous about singing in public, he had a quiet, tucked-in voice. He said he wasn't a singer, but I knew he was; that fall I convinced him to go on stage at a benefit for WBAI [a New York City radio station]. He was petrified, but he tried. On stage he began to sing Suzanne, stopped in the middle, looked out at the audience, and walked into the wings. I got him to return, with me, and we sang the song together.

Leonard has become in later years one of the great performers, an intelligent, poignant artist. I am always honored that I was there to sing his songs first. Altogether in the Elektra years [on albums released 1966-76] I recorded ten songs, among them Priests, Sisters of Mercy, Blue Raincoat, and Bird on a Wire. I am mad about Leonard's writing (from pages 8-9).

Later on page 9: One night over dinner in New York after In My Life [in Nov. 1966, the first Collins album with covers of Suzanne and Dress rehearsal rag] came out, Leonard told me I should be writing my own songs. Leonard is the type of guy when he tells you to do something, you at least try it." (Thanks to Rudi Schmid for the info)

Leonard Cohen's songs recorded by Judy Collins

"In my life" (11/1966) Suzanne Dress rehearsal rag "Wildflowers" (11/1967) Sisters of mercy Priests Hey, that's no way to say goodbye "Who knows where the time goes" (11/1968) Story of Isaac Bird on the wire

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There is more but this establishes that the year should be 1967 and not 1977 that "Judy Collins introduced Leonard Cohen..."

Thank you. Will Dockery (talk) 09:17, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

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