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March 2017[edit]

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Thanks for the advice Eric Starspotter (talk)

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Star trek vs Star wars[edit]

Have a look at the talk page. You might want to create separate sections for the content you keep adding which is becoming wp:clutter and also you add too many details in the intro and inappropriate sections. You are better off looking at the talk page and taking a different approach. I also suggest it would be helpful for you to read the whole article before you add more material since it appears the things you want to add belong in specific sections as I mentioned but you keep adding them (eg commentaries by Shatner which already exist). So please read the entire article and look at the talk page. Thank you for reading.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 21:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)


I appreciate the work you've put into the Spacedock article. To be honest, I doubt the subject meets the notability guidelines: most coverage of this topic is fleeting, and it's not been subject to significant third-party coverage. In addition, the article you've recreated needs some work just around structuring. I'll keep an eye on it and help as I can (although I'm not particularly active on Wikipedia). Worst-case, some of the information you've found might be better integrated in other articles (e.g. Star Trek III, which introduces the design) and the article returned to being a redirect. --EEMIV (talk) 13:29, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! We will see how it goes for the article. One factor that lead me re-start it was its numerous appearances across the Star Trek franchise beyond just the Search for Spock. Starspotter (talk) 16:19, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

July 2017[edit]

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Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Extinction (Star Trek: Enterprise), but we cannot accept original research. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 17:02, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Well there were sources there, but in time we can establish good sources as there is a lot out there. Starspotter (talk) 18:02, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
You are adding information that your (potentially unreliable) sources do not explicitly state. This is the textbook definition of synthesis. Please stop, or at least discuss the matter at the article's Talk page. DonIago (talk) 20:17, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Well there is a big range including a direct quote, I don't want to get to close to the source material in other cases. Thanks for the input! Starspotter (talk) 20:55, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Seconding DonIago's and MrX's posts, and asking once again that you provide edit summaries and familiarize yourself with the "show preview" button instead of making multiple consecutive edits. Eric talk 20:58, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Look I'm trying to address DonIago's concern's about those edits. I have also tried to improve use of the show preview button. I do appreciate the input though. Thanks. Starspotter (talk) 21:03, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
I just wanted to run in here and say that I've reverted a few of your edits - nothing personal at all, everyone's got to learn guidelines at some point. It was the addition of uncited information, and the addition of unnecessary detail to lead sections. Don't worry, it's totally stuff I used to do myself when I was first getting started. These only really become issues when you're doing it to articles which are at Good or Featured Article status. For the rest of the articles, any activity is appreciated really, and any issues created can be fixed when/if they go through a Good Article process. There are about 600 episode articles alone which aren't at GA/FA, so by all means have a play around with those if you want to get started. I'd suggest you have a look at the GA/FA articles and see if you can replicate those in the other episodes, I still do that myself as a refresher when working on a specific article. Miyagawa (talk) 09:11, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

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March 2018[edit]

Information icon Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Tasha Yar. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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You're the one who is reverting without a clear reason. You claim the style guide as authority, yet it endorses this type of information including appearances and biographical information. Starspotter (talk) 12:50, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of appearances of Tasha Yar[edit]

Hello, Starspotter. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, List of appearances of Tasha Yar, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:

  1. edit the page
  2. remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}}
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Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:44, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Graeme, this split off to as part of compromise on the Tasha Yar page, and another editor agreed. Thanks Starspotter (talk) 20:23, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

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Please slow down[edit]

Hi Starspotter,

I've noticed your edits on Star Trek related articles. It's clear that you're very enthusiastic about the franchise. I have to ask you to please slow down a bit, and familiarize yourself with Wikipedia guidelines. For instance, you made 49 consecutive edits on The Next Generation. You've added this to the lead:

Some of the highest rated shows by Nielsen ratings were the pilot, the finale, Unification (Diology), Aquiel, A Matter of Time, and Relics. Unification included the classic characters Spock and his dad Sarek, and Relics includes Scotty. Other famous episodes include the Best of Both Worlds diology, Inner Light, and The Measure of Man, which was released in an extended version in 2012 in 1080p

First, episodes are written with apostrophes, so it's "Unification", "A Matter of Time", etc. Dialogy is not a thing - do you mean it's a two-part episode? That some of the episodes features "classic characters" is not notable in this context, so I would remove that regardless. Wikipedia uses a formal tone, so it shouldn't be "Spock's dad", but "father". You as a fan might know who Scotty is, but Wikipedia is written for a general audience, not for people familiar with Star Trek. "Other famous episodes" isn't a formal tone either; words and sentences like "well-received" or "critically acclaimed" are fine. Again, this is the lead of an article about a TV show; that an episode had an extended version released in 2012 in 1080p is not notable here. It also misses a period at the end.

Further down, you wrote Stephen Hawkings, instead of, you know, Stephen Hawking. Below the table of characters, you added "The character Q is very famous, and appeared in the first and last dioligies, but overall only appeared in 8 shows". Again, not a formal tone, and how is the character "famous"? Dioligies is not a word. Below the picture of console, you added the caption "A diagram of the Enterprise-D is shown on console from the "main engineering" set from hit sci-fi show Star Trek: The Next Generation which aired from 1987 to 1994". "Hit sci-fi" is not appropriate - and by now, readers would know that they're reading about The Next Generation; adding the years of its original run is unnecessary.

You've been editing Wikipedia on your account since May 2017, with 1,343 edits to your name. While your edits are greatly appreciated, you can't add those kind of POV-pushing sentences. If hope you understand. If you have any questions, let me know. Kind regards, soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 12:40, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi there and thanks for the input! I hope in time we can increase the quality of the article, and others. Thank you Starspotter (talk) 15:35, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Starspotter, I can only concur that you need to calm down with your edits. The best thing you can do is to look at the articles already at Good Article status and Featured Article status and try to replicate that level of information and structure in other articles. However, what you seem to be doing is adding information to articles that simply doesn't need to be there. For example, I just went through and removed a list of James L. Conway's Star Trek credits from what appears to be every single one of his Star Trek articles - while relevant to the Conway article itself, it simply isn't relevant as a list in an individual episode article. This is the manual of style for episodes and characters: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Television. You need to read this as well: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch, as I notice that you've been breaking a few of the requirements there. I thoroughly encourage your enthusiasm, but try not to create work for other editors. Miyagawa (talk) 11:14, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello, and thanks for the input Miyagawa. I am sorry I am not familiar with all these rules, there is really I think too many rules but I do appreciate taking the time to let me know. Thank you for all your additions to the articles, it is really quality reading especially about the show. Cheers Starspotter (talk) 18:10, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

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April 2018[edit]

Information icon Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Inquisition (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine). Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. I would beg you to follow the advice of other editors and slow down. Besides adding information without citation, you're failing to use proper formatting. DonIago (talk) 18:48, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at List of Star Trek races, you may be blocked from editing. DonIago (talk) 20:46, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Actually, I did add a reference in addition the other content. What I wrote comes straight out shows and references thank you very much. Starspotter (talk) 20:57, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
No, you added two paragraphs, one of which didn't include a citation of any kind. DonIago (talk) 04:50, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Afterimage (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine). For the last time, you need to be more careful not just to ensure that the specific information you're adding is explicitly supported by reliable sources, but also that you're using proper grammar and formatting. You are not improving articles with the edits you're making if you force other editors to have to review and frequently revert your word. I beg you to be more careful and pay attention to the advice I and other editors have been giving you. DonIago (talk) 04:54, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

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Multiple problems in Star Trek articles[edit]

Hi Starspotter - I'm writing to you with similar concerns to those expressed above by Doniago, Soetermans, Miyagawa, and others. Today I spent quite some time cleaning up a number of Star Trek related articles where your contributions, although the effort is appreciated, on balance seemed to do more harm than good. I'm concerned that your command of the English language may not be strong enough to avoid introducing incomprehensible text into articles, and also that you have a habit of introducing personal reflections and unsourced commentary that are not acceptable according to Wikipedia guidelines. For example, I removed the following from the Star Trek (film series) article:

"Later when Nemesis was poorly received with a Trek rookie for directing TNG, but unlike The Final Frontier, halted Trek films for over half a decade."

Due to poor grammar and structure, this sentence is essentially incomprehensible. And even if the basic meaning is finally understood, it is a synthesis and overall is more of a personal commentary or speculation, than a reporting of material that is verifiable by reliable, published sources. As another example I reverted your change of:

"The following table shows the cast members who played the primary characters in the film series." to:
"The following table shows the cast members who played the primary characters in the film series, as additional examples of characters from the franchise or movies"

As well as rendering the sentence incomprehensible, the change is missing punctuation, the period at the end of the sentence. I noticed this same pattern in numerous other articles where you had added material to the lede paragraphs, with no closing period. These are just a couple of examples. In reviewing your previous contributions to other articles, I have seen many examples of major errors in English usage, grammar, punctuation, capitalization, etc., as well as extensive additions of unsourced personal reflection and commentary. I also noted that you have introduced in numerous articles, redundant text that repeats information already in the article or its parents, such as condensed plot summaries, as well as excessive details, trivia, quotes, and so on. Finally, what citations you do provide consist of bare URLs; properly-formatted citations would be much preferred. I started to revert some of your previous edits, and tried to fix some of the problems, but realized that it would take far more time than I'm able to put into it. Perhaps some of the editors I mentioned above, or others from Wikipedia:WikiProject Star Trek, could review your contributions and help to clean it up, if you are not able to do so yourself.

Again, while your enthusiasm is appreciated, I strongly urge you to take more care in following Wikipedia guidelines, especially about adding unsourced personal commentary, and checking your usage of English. If it's determined that your contributions require too much clean-up work from other editors, there is a very real possibility that you will soon be asked (or even forced) to stop editing Wikipedia. --IamNotU (talk) 03:32, 25 June 2018 (UTC)