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Wiki4MediaFreedom[edit]

Hi. If you have time, please take a look on meta at this page m:Wiki4MediaFreedom contest. It's an event organized by Rossella Vignola (OBC), there is a list of articles to improve also on English wikipedia.--Alexmar983 (talk) 20:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject[edit]

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background[edit]

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:59, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Dilara Büyükbayraktar[edit]

Please help me save this one!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Time zone (infobox) in Turkey articles[edit]

Hi All - newbie alert! :) Earlier today I reviewed/edited (by way of the WP:ASE list, not because I'd claim any expertise in the subject) a couple of small articles on Turkish villages, and noticed that in both cases the time zone in the infobox was shown as EET (winter) / EEST (summer). AFAIK, Turkey is now year-round on the FET. Assuming I'm right, and further assuming that this is something that needs to be corrected in a number of articles, is there an easy way of doing it (say, a tame bot?) without a lot of manual editing? Or if not, could this be added as a project task (if it isn't already)? Cheers, DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:28, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't think we need a bot to accomplish the task. In the past we also had a term when the summer time was used during the winter. This was a temporary practice and it was soon abandoned. No need to hurry. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 12:49, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
@Nedim Ardoğa: Are you suggesting that Turkey's current FET observance is temporary also? If so, what do you base this on? And as to whether we need to 'hurry' or not, I'm not saying correcting the time zone references should be anyone's top priority, just flagging up an issue that needs addressing at some point (unless you're right, and the country reverts to its earlier time zones). DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:50, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
It probably is. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:07, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Turkish people[edit]

Dear wikipedians, for the last two years now, I have seen the Turkish people article in a complete mess. It is time for the nationalist nonsense to stop (whether pan-Turkish or anti-Turkish). Are there any wikipedians willing to help me write-up an objective article? O.celebi (talk) 17:39, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

This is an old article created in 2005. Exactly what may be wrong or racist ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:07, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
To begin with, the following sentence has been added without any discussion. "It has been discovered through the Turkish genealogy database that at least 2 million of those who identify as Turks are in reality ethnically Armenian, most of whom were survivors of the Armenian Genocide" neither of the sources cited claim this. The closest is from the independent article saying "Perhaps two million Turks have Armenian grandmothers" at the very end. Robert Fisk is not a historian or demographer nor does he have access to Turkish Geneology data and yet an offhand comment is being deliberately misrepresented as fact. Bertan92 (talk) 18:55, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Turkish people article[edit]

This is the third time I am writing this. Hopefully it does not get ignored this time. The following sentence has been added to the Turkish people lead without any discussion. "It has been discovered through the Turkish genealogy database that at least 2 million of those who identify as Turks are in reality ethnically Armenian, most of whom were survivors of the Armenian Genocide". Neither of the sources cited for this sentence claim this. The Al-monitor article does not mention any type of statistics. The closest is from the independent article saying "Perhaps two million Turks have Armenian grandmothers" at the very end. This is made by Robert Fisk. Robert Fisk is not a historian or demographer nor does he have access to Turkish Genealogy data and yet an offhand comment made by a journalist is being presented as though it is the result of an investigation into Turkish genealogy data.

I believe this is an edit made in bad faith as the note on the page history is "expanded the lead a bit..." left by a user who regularly engages in aggressive edit feuds with other users. Bertan92 (talk) 15:41, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Why don't you make the necessary corrections ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:03, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Looks like somebody has. I still think it doesn't belong in the article. It's an offhand claim made by a random journalist. Can we look into banning the user who made the edit. There are so many violations in this one edit it's not even funny.Bertan92 (talk) 16:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC)